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the pope from bush no memorial hall in hartford connecticut the first nineteen ninety six presidential debates as bear good evening i'm elizabeth farnsworth in washington
welcome to this special edition of the newshour in about a minute the debate will begin as you've seen president clinton and senator dole are in place as is the moderator our own chimera one event ends margaret warner charlayne hunter gault and i will get analysis from mark shields and polish ego historical perspective from doris kearns goodwin michael beschloss haynes johnson and bill kristol we'll also get a partisan reaction from senators kay baily hutchison and barbara boxer the candidates have spent the past several days preparing president clinton at the chautauqua institution in upstate new york and senator dole in his condominium in south florida president clinton tasted his skills in mock debates against former democratic sen george mitchell names who's smart daily with all when they were both senate leaders in florida bob dole practiced against clinton stand in tennessee senator fred thompson who used to be a professional actor here now is jim lehrer reading from the emotional
theater in hartford connecticut and jim lehrer newshour on pbs welcome to the first of the nineteen ninety six presidential debates between president bill clinton the democratic nominee and senator bob dole the republican nominee this event is sponsored by the commission on presidential debates in the last ninety minutes following the format and rules worked out by the two campaigns there will be two minute opening and closing statements in between a series of questions each having three parts and ninety second answer a sixty second a bottle and a thirty second response i will assist the candidates in adhering to those time limits were the help of a series of light visible to both under their rules the candidates are not allowed to question each other directly i will ask the questions there are no limitations on the subjects the order for everything tonight was determined by calling fouls now to the opening statements and a president that mr firth thank you gentlemen thank you to the people of
hartford our hosts a war began by saying again how much i respect senator dole and his record of public service and how are now trying to make this campaign and this debate one of ideas not insults four years ago i ran for president in a time of high unemployment and rising frustrations i want to turn this country around the problem of opportunity for all responsibility from all and an american community where everybody has a role to play i want a government that was smaller less bureaucratic to help people have the tools to make the most of their own lives four years ago you told me on faith now there's a writer and a half million more jobs rising incomes falling crime rates and welfare rolls a strong america at peace we are better off than we were four years ago let's keep going we cut the
deficit by sixty percent now let's balance the budget protect medicare medicaid education and the environment we cut taxes for fifteen million working americans now let's pass the tax cuts for education and child rearing help with medical emergencies and buying a home we passed family and medical leave now let's expand it so more people can succeed as parents in the workforce we pass a hundred thousand police the assault weapons brand the brady bill now let's keep going by finishing the work of putting the police on the street and tackling juvenile gangs we pass welfare reform allison of a million people from well for work and most important let's make education our highest priority so that every eight year old be able to read every twelve year old can log on to the internet every eighteen year old in dover collins weekend bill that read says twenty first century and i look forward to discussing exactly how we're going to do it will thank you for
those kind words thank the people of hartford commission and all those out who may be listening or watching it's a great honor for me to be here standing is the republican nominee and were proud to be the republican nominee reaching out to democrats and independents three very special people i was with my daughter alma mater but frank the rabbit from new york along with olly mann and help me out in the mountains of italy a few years back i've learned from them people who have to have time and sometimes you can't go alone and that's what america's all about and i really my future back from doctors and nurses and doctor in chicago named opportunity and enter a sense that time i will try to summon back to my country people are
watching us tonight america's greatest poets in the face of the earth not only millions of you still have anxieties you work harder and harder to make ends meet and put food on the table you worry about the quality and the safety of your children a lot of education but even more importantly we're about the future and will they have the same opportunities that you live it and jack kemp muhl assure you some ideas than i checked him as my running mate doing an outstanding job and the plain speaking man and i learned long ago that your word was your ball and i promise you the night at all but address your concerns are not try to exploit them is a tall order but i've been running against the odds for a long time and again i'm on a near the sea there's a major difference in your view of the role of the government
and that will serve of all how would you define the difference with gm i believe that the federal government should give people the tools and try to establish the conditions in which they can make the most of their own minds that to me is the key and that legally do some different conclusions from senegal for example we've reduced the size of the federal government to its smallest size in thirty years we would this more regulations eliminate more programs and not to republican process but i have worked hard for things like a family man gleave law the brady bill the assault weapons ban the problem to put a hundred thousand police on the streets all these are problems that senator dole pose that i support it because i felt they were legitimate effort to help people make the most of their own minds i worked hard to help families impart values to their own children i supported the beaches so that parents would be able to control what their kids what's on television when they're young along with a rating systems intel for
television an educational television i support strong action against tobacco companies to stop marketing advertising sales tobacco young people i support a big increase in the safe and drug free schools program these were as always a lot different but i believe that they were the right areas for america to be acting together as one country to help individuals and families make the most of their own lives and research it's with the values and the future of the roll out i think the basic differences and i had some experience in that i think the basic and i trust the people the president trust the government went back and looked at the healthcare plan that he wanted to impose on the american people won seven seventy new taxes price controls thirty five to fifty new bureaucracies that cost one point five trillion dollars to forget that that happened in nineteen ninety three a tax increase attacks everybody in america not just the rich could
make twenty five thousand mostly written both religious austerity taxes increase will be do you text tremendous thirty five billion dollar gas tax of two hundred and sixty five billion dollar tax increase i guess i rely more on the end of it like your car on my pocket or the tenth amendment or possible falling apart back in the states and back to the people that's my difference for the president about specific differences later he noted a few but there are others i trust the people we don't want to give the people more powers to make her own decisions over their own lives but i do think we are wrong when we tried to for example given mothers and newborns forty eight hours before they could be kicked out of the hospital and in the time of the levers i think we were right to pass as long kennedy bill which says you can lose your health insurance is because you changed the office of one family's consent our government is smaller and less bureaucratic
and has given more authority to the state senate's two predecessors under republican presidents but i believe we have to help our people get ready to succeed in the twenty first century senator dole of residents in his opening statement we are about or awkward at we were four years ago you agree believe better off than it was four years ago powerful that i may be better off for years now but they're the slowest growth than a century you know the growth of four point seven four point eight percent that's down about ten point four percent we're going to pass and then in bankruptcies this year the first time in history we get stagnant wages in fact women's wages have dropped two point two percent men's wages haven't gone up on down really have stagnation where the firestorm that in history and it seems to me that if you take a look we better awe
well i guess some may be better all saddam hussein is probably better off than it was four years ago renee it was four years ago by the american people are working harder and higher order and pay more taxes for the first time in history you pay about forty percent of what you earn more than you spend for food clothing and shelter to mine for taxes under this administration we talked about family and that family income is down that's up in some cases because both parents are working one works for the family and one works to pay taxes for the garden with a minimum tax cuts and spend more time with their children maybe even take a vacation that's what america's all well let me say forcible in february senator dole acknowledged that the american economy was in the very safest been in thirty years we have
ten i have many more jobs faster job growth rate than under any republican administration since the nineteen twenties wages are going up for the first time in a decade we have record numbers of new small businesses we're the biggest drop in the number of people in poverty in twenty seven years all groups of people are growing and biggest drop in income inequality in twenty seven years in nineteen ninety five the average family's income has gone up over sixteen hundred dollars to set our economic plan passed so i think it's clear that we're better off than we were four years ago now we need to focus on what we need to do to be better off still how can we help people if we are to get their retirements or when they work for small businesses to be able afford health insurance they will educate their children that's what our focus on the we are clearly better off than we were four years ago the senator though acknowledge this year well i doubt that i'm out of that this year but many of them i mean you just look at the facts we asked people are viewing and i are you better off we were
four years ago or whether we're better off so they're better off we working harder to put food on the table he'd do john ridley john get a better education or drug use has doubled the past forty four months all across america crime has gone down but because the mayors like rudy giuliani where one one third the drop happen in one city york city so yes some may be better off people listening i've been working families who'll benefit for economic package will be better off and volvos president jacques and his vice president as president of a summer of old school pretty close in the last few days accusing you of lying about his position on medicare reform it themselves absolutely not let's let's look at the position for small number that in this campaign season since our goals mccammon he is writing about the fact that he voted against medicare in the beginning in nineteen sixty five only twelve members who said either the right thing then he knew it wouldn't
work at the time that's what he said then he has a budget that he passed along speaker gingrich cut medicare two hundred and seventy billion dollars more than was necessary to repair the medicare trust fund it would have to our seniors more for out of pocket cost as well as more in premiums because doctors to deter arson the american medical hospital association the nurses association the catholic hospital association also hundreds of hospitals could close and people would be hurt badly and of the building which medicare plan that i've eaten and now what this risky thousand and fifty billion dollar tax things and bills even his own friends his campaign co chair so tomorrow says that they can't possibly pay for it without cutting medicare more and cutting social security as well according to him now my balance budget plan adds ten years of the life of the medicare trust fund ten years and we'll have time to deal with the long term problem but it was simply wrong to finance their last thing to cut medicare throughout and seventy billion dollars
to underestimate wearing on the buyer we always have to reform and over the years we need someone who believes in to reform so on the sales tax i looked back to vote on medicare nineteen sixty five a program called elder care that also provided drugs means that people needed medical attention they see that i thought of that program but support medicare a sense in fact i used to tell my mother would tell me that ball are not summer so security my medicare you got it reporting a conversation like this i'm concerned about health care healthcare marmor hospitals army hospitals and i most importantly benefits that says trustees the president's persistent mindsets than liberal he doesn't fix him for ten years we on a commission just within so security in nineteen eighty three when he rescued so security and i was proud to be
on the commission long plot that the champion of senior citizens important and we can do it again if we take politics out of it stop you're experiencing is more than forty five million dollars scaring seniors and tearing me apart and then it's time to have a cruise well let me say first will oddly happened have commissioned you listen i appreciate what senator build it on the eighty three sells security commission but it will be possible to do if his texting passes because even his own campaign co chairs and minuses to have to cut medicare even more than was cut in the bill about the tone of the toll that though because it cut more medicare and and basically ran the rest of breaking up the system now balanced budget plan puts ten years on medicare we don't believe that we can have a commission with some of those plans are not good for the country so your goals you still think it's a good idea to fifteen percent of girls were
going to be eligible for a former president are equally defensible and this is not a wall street that this is a family that has a main street that's fifteen percent across a third of them are making thirty thousand dollars a year that's one hundred and sixty one dollars mit simon this is bullshit bushnell memorial not a lot of money with people watching it with a couple of kids working family that for five months of daycare maybe a personal computer that maybe three or four months of mortgage payments this economic impact is about families that six point that first was about what to amend the constitution which president clinton defeated the twisted arms and that six democrats to vote the other way we lost by one vote its balance the budget by the year two thousand to its attacks that cutting capital gains fifty percent greater more jobs more opportunities it's a state tax relief
to five hundred dollars per child tax credit it's about immigration reform now the president of millions of dollars in traveler's like this provision that my fellow of the building and she goes before an epigraph at the ground and a call on my cell phone from a trial lawyer has also regulatory reform mr previn i like to have your support well here's the problem it sounds very good but there's a reason that five hundred economists including seven nobel prize winners business periodicals like businessweek and i even sent our goals france or warren rudman former republican senator from new hampshire says it is not a practical problem to five hundred and fifty billion or text me that will cause a big hole in the deficit which will raise interest rates and slow down the economy and cause people to pay more for home mortgages car payments on credit card payments college loans and small business loans it's not good reason they're so we worked too hard to lower
it'll actually raise taxes on nine million people and an admission of that it will force bigger cuts in medicare medicaid education and the environment then once that he enlisted in years past that i vetoed last year so it sounds great but are targeted tax cut for education child rearing health care in home buying which is paid for not balanced budget plan something that he has not done to certify that a congressional budget office that's the right way to go though must increase spending twenty percent over next year six years on increase spending fourteen percent that's awesome for this i want the government to pinch pennies for change instead of the american families we're talking about six percentage points over six years and with that money give it back to the working people he also provide opportunity scholarships a low income parents by the same joys another sad and sending their children to better schools and we'll get more work what does work with the president when you graduate us president servants and
trial lawyers and campaign that means campaign financing have you personally avoid being unduly influenced by people to give you money or to get services in your campaigns like how to articulate not positions as clearly as possible tell people want to stand for and let them decide whether they're going to support me and maybe senator mention the trial lawyers in the case of the fata club will be built which they pressed in on the job i think that's what it's talking about it what the senate bill are not told people exactly what the congress exactly will come and go outside yellow the trial lawyers had moments an integral although we'll do what we can to cut frivolous lawsuits they would make some of the changes that i thought he may just give you an example i have a person in the oval office who lost a child in a school bus accident where a drunk driver causing accidents directly with the recalls a school bus driver had no money under the new bill the five sided a person like that could never have had any recovery i thought that was wrong so i gave four five
specific examples the congress must approve the maid of these people could recover but we're gonna limit frivolous lawsuits i'll sign the bill but generally i believe that a president has to be willing to do what he thinks is right out of a lot of things that were controversial my economic plan the trade position bosnia haiti taking on the nra for the first time taking on the tobacco companies for the first time sometimes you just have to do that because you know it's right for the country over the long run that's what i tried to do and that's what i will continue to do as brian sandoval nevada's ii avoid conflict as one on the case the trial lawyers i look at the trial lawyers in your view many in georgia power wouldn't pick a uniform and in an organized labor come to washington dc and puts thirty five million in the pot these are special interest and i have a lot to learn i was there for a while before i left on june eleventh the trial lawyers and i don't want i don't know my wife's a lawyer
would only two lawyers in force and trust each other but their lawyers highlight lawyers i don't dislike trial lawyers but seaney there's got to be some of the frivolous lawsuits and at some point you need them you're putting a lot of businesspeople out a pot a business small businessman in small business woman who made seventy percent of your rankings are two and sixty five billion dollar tax increase the largest tax increase in the market has said that one thing about montana democrat say no seven minutes to the world so i modified the largest tax increase in history the world that seems to me that there's a problem with that mr president you didn't do that with president bush in nineteen ninety two oh let me say a forcible i sign a tort reform bill that built dealt with civilian aviation couple years ago up for that our son reason tort reform certainly a similar goals and had some pretty harsh comments about special interest money but it wasn't me who oppose what we tried to do to save the lives of
children who are subject tobacco and they went to the tobacco growers and write about standing up for the federal government and we try to stop the advertising marketing and sales at about the children and it wasn't me that let the polluters actually come into the halls of congress and the rooms and re write the environmental laws that for speaker gingrich and sent bolden not me so i believe that we should take a different approach to this and talk about how we stand on the issues instead of trying to characterize each others' motivations i think senator though i just honestly disagree all solicitors and coarseness how do you avoid being imposed upon people contribute money and services to your campus i think it's very difficult to be honest about it that's why we need campaign finance reform that's why reach out to the road voters we got about all the leader of the reform party republican party and the pro voters are looking for all model take a look at the republican record whatever it is whatever the checklist was a minute is all on the campaign finance reform i worked for senator mitchell who played me i guess and a very warm up we tried six or eight years ago that he appointed
three people appointed three people and campaign finance reform which didn't get it done because that was enforceable you suggest the commission newt gingrich that i suggest that these four five years ago we had a commission on campaign finance reform they sent to congress and that the voter robert l lots of works were never know if it's about the party and democrats won a better days and so when one of their advantages republicans that's not out but we're going to touch on those tobacco thing on all the presence of a lot on that bolivar back to nineteen sixty five that was my first vote against tobacco we are labeled cigarettes night at a consistent record ever since nineteen sixty five we passed over ninety nine he do to encourage the states welcome to the program says the kids in all fifty states that it took three and a half years and won until election year mr bradley ever thought about stopping smoking what about drugs increased the double in the last forty four months wilkins eight hundred and forty one percent are marijuana cocaine a pattern six six percent it seems to me
that you had a selective memory and the mind doesn't work that way so for private collectors people ms lehrer abilities to discuss drugs later in the program but let me respond when you say it i agree that there are too many incumbent politicians in washington both parties have consistently opposed campaign finance reform that was certainly the case from the minute i got there so after a speaker yanis in senegal took over the congress on what new hampshire and man suggested the edge of an unfortunate especially a couple days ago suggested that we appoint a commission and i shook hands with him on at the point of my members and the commission never met and then senate bills are supporters of the detainees that they're today along with senator feingold supports sponsor the campaign finance reform proposal i strongly supported and members of seven bells own party in the senate killed and he was not out there urging them to vote for the mccain feingold
bill like the american people including liberal supporters know that i've had a consistent record in favor of campaign finance reform and i will continue to have and now we can finally do in the next session of congress this week campaign reformers over yet it may have a bipartisan commission to get out of politics get people writing interest in politics and i understand the issue about the mike recommendation a congressman reckoning about him as president is just to get people watching and millions and millions of americans then all the republican party hasn't done a thing of the democratic party on the reality that somebody else had to admit the vote to forget summary drugs has set has suggested in the catholic you are you bear some responsibility for the rise in drug use of teenagers in the united states has the right with them i think every american and it existed responsible we should be concerned about what's happened i am but let's look at the overall record overall
america cocaine use has dropped thirty percent last four years as one reviews down thirteen percent the tragedy is that our young people are still increasing their use of drugs to about eleven percent so with marijuana and i regret to limit it we're trying to avoid a four star general who led our efforts to sell some order to keep the ocean coming into the country as our nation's roads are most heavily directed decorated soldier in uniform when he retired we in savannah the biggest drug was it ever we have dramatically increased their control enforcement at the border we supported the crime bill that had sixty their families including their family for drug kingpins and i support a big expansion and safe and drug free schools formed to support things like that they are crying as i thought all those things were very important and i think that i bear some responsibility for the fact that too many of our children still don't understand about the wrong drugs can kill you you know i have consistently oppose legalization of drugs on our public life and work hard against them i think we all live and how we can do better i
don't think this issue should be politicize because my record is clear and i don't think senator will support use using drugs i think we just have to continue to work on this until those executives and dangerous i won't feel it will destroy their wives give them assistance right medicare scare senior citizens another global groups veterans and people get pell grants and center this time you say we don't always bad things which isn't isn't the case but it seems to me the record is clear records pretty clear in arkansas governor abused double but you resisted that one of the drugs are there because you thought of money in a further treatment that here you got the drug czar's office at three percent you cut interdiction substantially coming across the border and in my administration we're going to train the national guard to stop them from across the border and this is an
invasion of drugs from all over the world and we have responsibility yet insurgents or before don't have realities of real to consider legalizing drugs that the leadership we need and i won't comment on other things that have happened in your ministry for your best about drugs but it seems to me because i just don't do it when you say to him we develop drugs are in arkansas bloody answer to the governor just like this one answers to the president that's what i thought we all do certainly senator dole you vote against the crime bill that have the best family for drug kingpins in it and you voted to cut services to twenty three million schoolchildren the safe and drug free schools act i don't think that major assault on drugs we just have a different approach let me remind you that my family has suffered from drug abuse i know what it's like to
see somebody loved it would lose their lives and i hate drugs senator we need to do this together and we can sell it all on the government to complain about the government's role if elected president would you say a repeal the radio in the ban on assault weapons i didn't have a better idea but i've got a better idea of summer i worked on for fifteen years it's called the automated check really instant check it's been used in seventeen states right now states like florida colorado virginia other states you know whining yeah you don't get anything we got twenty million names on a computer wash and the sea of people should not have done we don't keep guns and criminals every other category i've been working on this for a long haul not you walk in portugal card in there that says to you don't get any gun you don't get a handgun you don't get a rifle you don't get shot then you get a
simple protect america through an american friends and people live as prisoners in their own home we got to stop guns from being dumped on the street administration says they support the instant check that broke ray but two million dollars spent about three million dollars to get underway in our administration my administration will act like this keeps up the technology gets guns out of the hands of people who should not have guns that is the bottom line i believe it's a good idea as strong bipartisan support and perhaps that's another thing we can be politicized you talk about the brady bill there's only been one prosecution of the brady the only one of the assault weapon ban and only seven of the brady bill to talk about all the time on the assault weapons ban that a seventeen weapons were banned only six men now because lemon been modified back on the street let's get together on this instant check well let me say first will
say those gone back and forth about whether it be for repealing the regular opinion the assault weapons plan i think is present position is that he would not do so and that's true i am grateful for it but let's look at the facts here the brady bill has kept at least sixty thousand felons fugitives a stalker from giving handouts senator dole led the fight against the brady bill he tried to keep it from coming and i guess he didn't succeed and i signed it and i'm glad i'm here then we had the assault weapons ban in the senate senator dole thought it bitterly and oppose the entire crime bill and almost brought the entire crime bill them because national rifle association they want the assault weapons ban just like didn't want to brave bill but two years later nobody's loesser handguns them in their rifles we've expanded the brady bill the cover people or be up there of their spouses and their kids and this is safer country so i worked on that
site and i believe i was right and he was wrong well president employee writing it seem to me that time that the assault weapon that was not a factor that has to be like all the nra this history you know there were about an anemometer word that anymore let's do something better let's stop applying the political game as the president talked about this in this peculiar add up all the states have used the instant check how many weapons a pimp can get done in the poem was given far surpass the number you mention saw my view it won't be protected your little bottle ms rose of summer is also the other day that you're practiced a photo op foreign policy that has lessened the credibility of the united states throughout the world is he wrong about that if it is that's what he's said he's not running a look at where we are today the united states is still
indispensable nation in the aftermath of corn on the brink of the twenty first century i work to support our country's the world's transport for peace and freedom prosperity and security we've done the following things number one we manage the aftermath of the cold war supporting a big drop in nuclear weapons and russia the removal of russian troops from the baltics the integration essential in eastern european democracies into a new partnership with nato and i might add with a democratic russia there are no nuclear missiles pointed at the children of the united states tonight and not been an arbitration for the first absence of gong the nuclear age we worked hard for peace and freedom when i took office haiti was governed by a dictator that had defied the united states when i took office the worst war in europe was waiting in bosnia now there is a democratically elected president at peace in bosnia we just have elections there make
progress in northern ireland and the middle east we've also set up to the new threats of terrorism cliff arrest of weapons of mass destruction organized crime and we have worked hard to expand america's economic presence around the world with the biggest increase in trade with the largest number of new trade agreements in history that's one of the reasons america's number one or production you find a different feeling and i supported president bosnia and i think the repeal the troops to be out here now and it's been extended until sometime next year but let's start with somalia with a drag americans to the streets liberating americans were killed one day because i didn't have been down for eight hours the rangers didn't have the weapons that in that the tanks i asked the tanks i didn't get the tanks in this administration because we are nation building is called mission creep we turn over the united nations the president didn't you look at where we spent about three billion dollars on color about two weeks ago and has announced more people because of
presence find out their desk more than his twenties you'll probably need more protection from our was near northern ireland is no cease fire in bosnia i think there's still lots of problems in bosnia we agreed to train in on the muslims there to defend themselves alice you had new and ninety nine into we haven't done that way behind which means americans can come all americans should have gone there in the first place and we didn't let them defend themselves as they have a right to do under article fifty seven united nations charter the personal i take full responsibility for what happened in somalia but the american people must remember that those soldiers were under american commander when that happened i believe they did the best they could out of the circumstances and let's not forget that hundreds of thousands of water saving secondly in haiti political violence is much much smaller than it was fairly in bosnia it's a virtual miracle that there has been overturned the war and at least there is now the election
and these institutions are beginning to function in northern ireland in the middle east we are better off when we were four years ago there will always be a problem in this whole world but if were moving in the right direction and america's leading liberal senator dole if elected president what criteria would you use to decide when to send us troops into harm's way well after world war ii won we had a policy of disengagement of moral one of world war two we answer the compulsory engagement policy now i think we're at a selective engagement policy we are determined when our interests are involved not united nations' interest and many things the president talked about in general the united nations they decided he's deployed more troops than any president in history around the world it's cost us billions and billions of dollars for peacekeeping operations that these are facts and it seems to me that when you make a decision the decisions made by the president staged by the commander in chief he makes a
decision really commits young men or young women around and defend our liberty and our freedom that that would be my position and one of the top down reviewed the pentagon on a bottom up review real fight over how much money their top down repeated throughout our priorities are and what we should do and defense and then follow that thousands of those bottom a preview of all the services fighting for them on the present city like a defense sixty billion dollars to cut defense hundred and four billion dollars devastated states like california and others i think now we've got a problem go back and look just like you said in texas one day any raise taxes too much and you did when you got defense too much mr president and you did new mickey may have said that to but the bottom line is we're the strongest nation in the world we provide that leadership may not continue to provide the leadership let's do it on our parents aren't mature and talk about when somebody blows a whistle united nations our military as the strongest military in the
world it is the strongest most compared this to clip it has ever been there is very little difference in the budget that i propose in the republican budget over the next six year period we are spending a lot of money to modernize their weapons system i propose a lot of new investments to improve the quality of life for our soldiers are men and women in uniform from their families for their training that is my solemn obligation you ask when you decide to deploy them the interests of the american people must meet state and it is mostly it's that we have to be able to make a difference and frankly we have to consider what the risks are to our young men and women in uniform and i believe the evidence is that our deployments have been successful in haiti in bosnia when we move to kuwait to repel saddam hussein's threatened invasion of kuwait when i have sent the fleet and the taiwan straits when we work hard and the north korean nuclear threat i believe the united states is a piece
tonight in part because of the discipline careful effective deployment of our military resources well what they'll mention north korea and think you're going to live in north korea when they have an opponent of the oil slicks nuclear bombs we've sort of distance ourself from our ally south korea they lost about a million people in the war the korean war the forgotten war we lost fifty three thousand americans we should be doing any favors for north korea to close a site in our own inspection and what it's gonna work or not we get even these incentive some ago and something else incentives we know what's going on here with yours gay people right to sue in the present postponed for six months and say maybe wanna send a segment medicine the signal mr president senate the better off broadway to put tougher sanctions on cash to not try to make it easier for other one is you're working on a commission
will fall to go look for the last four years we have worked hard to put more and more pressure on the castro government to bring about more openness and move toward democracy in nineteen eighty two before i became president congress passed cuba democracy act and i enforce it vigorously we made the embargo tougher that we increased contacts people the people with the cubans including direct telephone service which was largely supported by the cuban american community then he was shot down to allow our planes and murdered four people in international airspace they were completely beyond global mr simon helberg legislation senator those correct on video about six months before the effective they react for lawsuits can actually be filed even though they're affected now and candy legally mine because i want to change too and the united states needs help from other countries nobody in the world agrees with our policy on cuba now but this
law can be used as leverage to get other countries to help us to move cuba to democracy every single country in latin america central america and the caribbean is a democracy tonight with cuba and if we stay firm and strong we will be able to bring cuba around as well let's have one i'm at at the firm and strong i'll hope that will happen will happen starting next january navy captain ballots this year we have not been for armstrong you know the poor people are still live in cuba it's a haven for drug smugglers and we don't have a firm policy becomes fidel castro in my view crosses fail so congress passes a law the president signs of like it does a lot of things really like welfare reform on a sign of an imminent threat to change next year in a lot of these election year conversion to present on all drug money and all the other things all those anti smoking campaign all happened in nineteen
ninety six i think the people viewing appointment back and take a look at the record we get the biggest tax increase in history we tried to go over your healthcare system we fought regulatory reform cost the average family sixty seven thousand dollars here that this is serious about us about your family its about your business and in this case it's about a firmer policy with you there were several office of hip hoppers and that let me let me just mention the senate bill both the nine hundred billion dollars and tax increases his running mate jack kemp once said that bubble never met a tax he didn't hike and everybody knows including the wall street journal hardly a friend of the democratic party in this administration that the ad to tax increase he sponsored in inflation adjusted dollars of that is tax increase in american history so please give the five tables to weaken the word of the year
so imagine hell for health reform several powerful thing you think should be done about the health care system the first answer that question about the nineteen eighty two text that you know when we were closing loopholes were going after big corporation i know you thought would oppose mr president i think whichever fair system of water system and welfare of water system we're gonna make the economic package were health care law without a pass to pass a farm bill the president opposed to a nineteen ninety three one and it was his big sister over about one seventh the economy the wrong price controls real estate alliances one point five trillion dollars and forty people in a minute here we were not with the morsi though not going to see her own doctor when bob dole was president we will threaten anybody the candidates of twenty five million people we'd been for that for five or six
years the president went up the modified underpass its center kennedy over the promenade that it wouldn't satisfy the one question that we'll cover preexisting conditions if you change your job you're going to be covered so a lot of the things in this bill that we should've done instead of china's massive massive take over by the federal garden authentic or a set of democratic congressman didn't want to do that that we had a republican congress refining action and i'm very proud of my colleagues in the republican party for getting that done it means a lot to a lot of people well it sounds very good but it's very wrong senator dole remembers well that we actually offered not even put in a health care bill in nineteen ninety four or ninety three went instead to work with the circus senate republicans and write a joint bill and they said no because they got a memo from other political advisors sign that instead they should characterize what every bit as big government and make sure nothing was
not delayed health care before the ninety four elections so they could make that claim well they would be a lot more than we could chew that we're pursuing a step by step before now canada kassebaum bill i signed will make it possible for point five million people to keep their health insurance when they changed jobs or combine her family's been set aside the bill they're stopping rabbi delivery for insurance companies and force people hostility twenty four hours and i veto senate bills medicare plan that would have forced a lot of seniors into managed care and take a lot more money on their pockets and led the medicare weathering on the vine well many provisions in the cast farm bill are provisions of my provisions like production for long term care making certain self employed people watching tonight not thirty percent of eighty percent of the paper freeman gene also had a long term care now so it's a good it's a good start i think there is an upward looking at our tax cut or fold or economic back to maybe
waive their to reach out to the uninsured has a lot of uninsured people in this country fifty children should be covered that we can do to expand medicaid in america normal go without healthcare normal will go without food or food add back to foreign affairs for a moment mr president are you satisfied with the way you handled this lust direct crisis and the end result will i believe that we didn't appropriate thing under the circumstances saddam hussein is under un resolutions not to threaten his neighbors are threatened his own repress his own services unfortunately a lot of people in urban is concerned about the kurds as united states has tried to be and we'd been flying operation protect them out of turkey for many years now what happened was a lot of the turkish and one of the kurdish
leaders invited him to go up north but we felt since the whole world community had told him not to do it or was he did it we had to do something we did not feel that like a massively didn't feel i should commit american troops to throw him out of where you don't and that was the way to do that so the appropriate think strategically to do was to reduce his ability to threaten his neighbors we did that by expanding what's called a no fly zone by increasing our allies control of the airspace now from the kuwait border to the suburbs of it was the right thing to do i believe it was is it fully effective at making withdraw from the north will lead it as a woman that i hope we will continue we have learned that if you give an inch you're taken while we had to do something and even though on our allies support it at first i think most of them now believe that what we did was an appropriate thing to do well the president's own cia director says it's about much
stronger now than it was not understand expanding the no fly zone in the south in the frozen north and what we've done during the bush administration the kurds were the state department though she's trying to work their differences out now i got all thousands and thousand refugees return shipping industry thousand kurds have long involves turkey has the real promise of numbers probably stronger than ever was we shot what forty four cruise missiles are worth about a million rupees and it's in radar that referred a couple three days when like any damage know you enter allies helping only a great britain are always appreciate that and of course kuwait even though they had to find other at five thousand troops from getting understand that ready get their permission the bottom line is the one american will risk both the operating under un resolutions we did it without any of our allies of helpless in the gulf is because the symbolism to three thousand for night
criticized me for working with the un now on imprecise for not working with you this nutty sometimes the united states has to act alone or at least has to act first and sometimes we cannot let other countries have a veto on a foreign policy i could not sent soldiers into northern iraq that would've been wrong i could reduce its about the size of the venture into a prison there was again that's one of the last to leave it was the right thing so their goal on your photo op foreign policy toward oh no no i mean you're jarred because the president believes we have to follow up for what does the middle east summit last week fall into that category for some good pictures but as of armageddon i don't i would be very serious i've supported the president i thought he was right on boston i supported my map and there was not that we always disagree others disagreed with this the mideast is very difficult
but it's saying to me just as an observer that before you call somebody to america you have some notion with the end result might be a maybe it's better just to get together and savannah thought maybe that was the purpose and i don't think in the beginning he's almost like an ad hoc foreign policy it's an caucus early in the morning to read the papers and what countries in trouble were heavily and to me that's not the strategy that i think that people expect america i think we have lost credibility i say this very honestly without any partisanship we've lost credibility around the world are allies know they're not certain that we're going to do what her reaction when a response is going to be nobody suggested sending troops to iraq that was the hint there from the present but i do think that saddam hussein has stronger it was have you believe that he didn't get a great deal and that is by bringing three to four years one refused to come to washington dc
we have a very consistent policy in the least it is to support the peace process to support the security of israel and the support those were prepared to take risks for peace it is a very difficult environment the feelings are very strong they're extremists in all parts of the middle east who want to lead peace process from a serving gave his life because someone in his own country literally hated him for trying to bring peace i would like to have they organize summer with those people were killed each other rapidly innocent arab children innocent israeli people they were dying and there is there so much trust has broken down in the aftermath of the change of the arm i felt that if i could just get the parties together to say let's stop the violent start talking commit to the negotiations that would be a plus snap and i decide if your state is in the middle east and they started negotiations and all those leaders promised me they
would not quit until they resolve the issues between them and got the peace process going for a new level on this one the president not gotten an unconditional and of the violence and say maybe the violence stopping these leaders came to america killing the tragedies have taken place and it's unfortunate and it is a difficult marriage no doubt about it shouldn't be politicized in any way by the president but what is a farmer and i don't have a politicized i hope that they've talked about they read summaries all with the government as for the year acceptance speech in chicago you said the real choice in this race the school whether we be a risk for the future a bridge to the past about whether we believe our best days are still out there or our best days are behind us about whether we want a country of people all working together for one where you're on your own in court are you saying that you believe senator dole as a man of the ghastly and if they're
if elected president he would leave the country backward one sign that the senate also been here is fine speeches and knew that he wanted to build a bridge to the press and i think i know what he meant whether he's troubled as i am by something to go on that day what i believe america is the greatest country in human history because we have maintained freedom and increasing prosperity by relentlessly pushing the barriers of knowledge the bears the present always moving into the future that's why when i became president i was determined i can't move beyond its old stale debate has gone on in washington too long to get this country moving again that's why we got a country with can i have many more jobs and record numbers of new businesses and rising incomes and falling crime rates and welfare role it's slower moving in the right direction and i'm trying to emphasize that what i wanted is to continue to do that with one a balanced budget plan will still invest and grow this
economy that while a tax cut for education child rearing when it's gonna be paid for that twyla continue the work we've done over partisan opposition to work with communities to bring that crime rate down to our streets are all safe again these are my commitments i am very oriented toward the future i think this election has to be geared toward the future i think america's best days are still ahead but we got a bill that right rich my brother kenny was a great talker and he used to tell me things i knew were not quite accurate so we always had a really divided by six i made in your case maybe just two but eleven million new jobs and everything in the present and take credit for everything that governors are dealing with is adding a new york city when it comes to murder rate and then not the response to the bad things are that with its drug use or something else in america and so it seems to me that that we can talk about what we got any great
exaggeration he disliked instead making soundbite of many feel that the riches island reds the future also immigrants to the truth we have to tell the truth we the people watching and it was like trying to find the truth and the truth is there's a lot wrong with america we need a strong economic effect we need a tax cut we need to find another job that will have the same problem i do not for a moment think i'm entitled all the credit for that that they set up in america where where i have to work with the american people and help them have the tools to make the most of their own lives i think i should get some credit for that i also personally took responsibility and i consider the lesson about the drug problem but you know i think it has a better for the future senator they'll vote against student loans against has started his creative form of education if he gets elected president will start the new century without anyone in the cabin president representing
education our children i personally don't think that's a right and a future for america and i think we ought to take a different tack center building a still favor eliminating the department of education yes i did a favorite numbers and start i voted against that it was a tribute to president carter election account of the national education association so a lot of delegates the democratic convention get ninety nine point five percent of their money and read democrats and the present and one of the teachers and there is the private schools are better public schools so what we want to do is call opportunity scholarships now some so you're a republican you can't be reaching out to these people i reach out to people all my life i worked on the food stamp program probably and the wic program in the school lunch program listeners like george mcgovern uber alperin others to name a few my democratic friends i met some extremist that are i care about the
imo foundation's truth about ten million dollars for the disabled and on advertising has been ever before i try to do a lot of things that i think might be helpful to the boat seemed to me that a lot of take that money we can safely part of education for an opportunity scholarships until the lando shakespeare cleveland ohio and tell your mother and father you're going to get to go to school as ravenna match with the statements of anonymity goes through your choice i don't fault the present the vice president's energy and private schools are better schools are poor i don't criticize a voice and everybody had that joyce why shouldn't low income americans and more middle income american i'm excited about is going to be a big big opportunity for lucky they say first of all on all four students have more chores since we worked hard to expand public school choice and a balanced budget bill their sponsors three thousand new schools created
by teachers and parents sometimes but businesspeople call charter schools that have no rules are free of bureaucracy and to know its existence if they perform and teach children the ones that are out there doing well what i'm against this senate bill's plan to take money away from all the children we now help with limited federal funds and helped far fewer uber by have a pride about her plan there'll be done at the local level in the statement that senator dole has consistently opposed federal health education he voted against a lone silvery as might improve student loan plan he voted against the national service bill against the headstart bill he voted against our efforts of safe and drug free schools he had voted against these problems he does not believe that that's the issue nine percent of our kids are out there in the public schools and we lift their standards and move them forward with the problems like those of outline of this campaign robert rector simon is this putting in late practically things i voted against her body part of some big package of a lot of fortunate a lot of a vision of them accountable in our support of only
education provides supported had started will look at
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