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between vice president al gore and the man who wants his job jack camp tonight from the bay front center in st petersburg florida funding for this program has been provided by the corporation for public broadcasting and viewers like you i am good evening i'm elizabeth farnsworth in washington welcome to this special edition of the newshour in about a minute this one and only nineteen ninety six vice presidential debate will begin the candidates democrat al gore and republican jackie anbar in place as is the moderator our own jim lehrer when the event ends margaret warner charlayne hunter gault nih will get political analysis from mark shields and polish ego a partisan

reaction from two political strategists republican michael deaver and democrat robert schram and historical perspective from doris kearns goodwin michael beschloss haynes johnson and william kristol the candidates spent the past several days florida preparing vice president gore on longboat key and jack plant in belle harbor here now is jane mayer on the might have the theater the bay from center in st petersburg florida i'm jim lehrer of the newshour on pbs walking through the nineteen ninety six vice presidential debate between vice president al gore the democratic nominee and jack kemp the republican nominee this event is sponsored by the commission on presidential debates the rolls and format has drawn and agreed to by the two campaigns oran was almost identical to those of the presidential debate last sunday night in part for it is ninety minutes long the candidates are not permitted to question each other directly i will ask the questions with no

limitations on the subjects there will be a ninety second answer a sixty second rebuttal and a thirty second response to each question and with the help of some lights i will help the candidates abide by those time when the order for everything was determined by a coin toss there will be three minute closing statements but no opening statements shall we go now to the first question and that's it so supporters of senator dole and expressed disappointment over his unwillingness in hartford sunday night the drawl person or an ethical differences between him and president it feel about it while ninety sevens i can clear my throat in ninety seconds jim bob dole and myself do not see al gore and will we see them as our opponents as the greatest democracy in the world people are watching i want to love this country but all over the

world as to how this democracy can function with civility and respect decency integrity bob dole is one of those men has served as states at his public life is a public record he am one on the battlefield is where democrats republicans in my opinion it is that he will go after anyone personally abraham lincoln but at best twenty cities serve your party best by serving the nation first and i can't think of a better way of serving his nation in nineteen ninety six and by like and bob dole president of the united states of america these issues are fully capable of being understood and reflect upon by the american people this is a democracy which we have a phrase for us in the greatest first amendment rights in the history of mankind but i respect that these issues will be aired but they'll be aired

with dignity and respect and that ultimately lead to the american people to make up their minds about who should be the leader of this country and the twenty first century like in a stroller and i like to fight the people of st petersburg for being such wonderful hosts my family are very glad to be here and i would like to thank jack out for the answer that you just gave i think we have an opportunity tonight to have a positive debate about this country's future i'd like to start by offering new deal attacked if you want to use any football stories i won't tell any of my warm and humorous stories about chlorofluorocarbon abatement the fbi gave him what i do or i thought about tonight is bill clinton's positive plan for america's future we have a plan to balance the budget all

protecting medicare medicaid education and the informant creating millions of new jobs including one million new jobs in america inner cities i'm excited about the chance to talk about this plan and even more excited about the chance to work on it if you the people of this country will give the bill clinton the privilege of doing so for four more years i really had only two differences with the bill clinton president clinton and vice president gore foreign policy and domestic policy our foreign policy is ambivalent confusing it is sending strong signals throughout the wrong people and we have learned over the years that weakness is provocative the domestic economy is not doing what it can do issa president waiver of our capacity but the lively we can do a lot better but the potential of the american people to lift themselves up and not have their lights controlled i mean i

see much of vice president what do you see as the political philosophy their consulate general way between you and president clinton on the one hand mr camp and senator coleman the differences are very clear we have a positive plant based on three principles we want to provide opportunity for all americans we insist on responsibility being accepted in turn by everyone and we want to strengthen our communities and their ability to support families and individuals in our common effort to create a bright future here's how we plan to do that we have a balanced budget plan that has targeted tax cuts for middle income families we've already given tax cuts to fifteen million of the hardest press working families in america are planned for the next four years features a one thousand five hundred dollar tax credit call the hope scholarship for tuition at community college junior college or

college a ten thousand dollar tax deduction for college tuition for those who go further so that in essence no american family will ever be taxed on the money they spend for college tuition also tax relief for first time homebuyers tax inversion is for savings and help in paying health care expenses and a tax break actually the elimination of capital gains taxes on that on the profits from the sale of a home all of this is within a balanced budget plan which protects medicare medicaid education and the environment yemen's economy is over taxes overregulated to many people suing each other's to most litigation our education is not up to the standards of the american family and american people want for their children and then clearly the welfare system is a disgrace to our judeo christian principles is not the values of the poor that should be called into question the values of the welfare system from

washington and other prevent people from climbing out of poverty our biggest debate this administration on domestic policy is that they think were marvelous capacity we've raised our potential and that to an apperson growth is enough for america frankly that's just not good enough for this country we cannot just run the clock out on the twentieth century it clearly we need to lower the tax rates across the board working to save invest in i know my friend allison just as trickle down economics well now it has trickled on economics as van would see young entrepreneur owns a restaurant or it has tripled and the city would hire sixty more people if we make a gambling debt i talk about are positive agenda for the future a moment ago your rizzo question was about the contrast the plan from senator dole mr camp is a risky five hundred and fifty billion dollar tax scheme that actually raises

taxes oh nine million of the hardest pressed working families would blow a hole in the deficit caused much deeper cuts in medicare medicaid education and the environment and not our economy off track raising interest rates mortgage rates and car payments we stop that plan before we will stop again we want a positive plan for growth and more jobs to come back with a lot of philosophy question do you think there's a basic philosophy philosophy difference between the two tickets or is it about specific with both of you talk about what was a perfect example bob dole and i want to cut the tax rates across the board on each and every american working saving investing and take and race in america all well has created and all the royalties generated by risk taking entrepreneur whose tax rate on capital market is way too high it's too high on the family and it's

particularly july are working men and women the average family in america the median level of income probably is spending twenty five twenty six percent of their income sent to the federal government as more than shelter food and clothing and energy that's just not right i was brought up in los angeles my parents were one working family won a breadwinner or family was all that was necessary now if a woman wants to go to work or memoirs that work in oddly their joy it's not the choice of that wasn't easy establishment bill clinton president al gore suggest that don't give us a tax cut but only if we do exactly what they want us to do that is an america that social engineering the tax code should reflect our values and a judeo christian sense at work on a state security conference and property investments savings should be rewarded and bob dole and jack kemp are not only to cut the tax rates across the board in lower the campaign's ads i'll be glad to talk about that later

as a nun the time were to reveal the eighty three year old cody and replaces seven million words to flatter fairer simpler code and that will take this country roaring into the twenty first century this a risky tax he would blow a hole in the deficit you don't have to take my word for it time newsweek and us news and more reports businessweek eighty three percent of hundreds of economists and random survey just recently also it would blow a hole in the deficit there's another feature that i would like to hear mr can't speak about just before he joined sen joe on the ticket he said that the plant the part of the plan that raises taxes on nine million of the hardest working families in america was and continental that means it's wrong and it shouldn't happen i agree it is still part of the plan that we believe that taxes should not be increased

on those families we have a plan to cut taxes on middle income families with a balanced budget plan on nominating the deficit and protecting medicare medicaid education and the environment and every time this country in the twentieth century as cut tax rates across the board revenues went up the economy grow and i am surprised at this point in his career that vice president gore and the president cannot understand it you get more revenue from a bigger pie and clearly creating more jobs reduces the social welfare durang playwright makes more opportunity for capital to be invested in our inner cities frankly all we should just tinker with a couple things that was eliminated in the inner cities of america put capital to work and make democratic capitalism and jobs available in our inner cities in ice skates as vice president shared federal government affirmative action programs to continue yes president clinton

address this issue when he said the mend it don't end it diversity is a great strength in america look around the world at other places where they have not paid attention to the necessity of promoting harmony between different ethnic racial and religious and cultural groups we ought to be very proud in our country as most americans are that we've made tremendous progress but we also recognize that we have more work to do now and the first thing that we're trying to do is to create a million new jobs in the inner cities of this country with tax credits for employers who hire people who are now unemployed we are seeking to have a vigorous enforcement of the laws that our discrimination now i want to congratulate them mr camp for being a lonely voice in the republican party over the years on this question it is it is with some sadness that i refer to the fact

that the day after he joined sen goals that he announced that he was changing his position and was here thereafter going to adopt senator paul's position that you and all affirmative action that's not good for our country bill clinton and i believe that the united states of america has its writers days ahead and we will see them even brighter if we promote diversity and harmony among all our people can jim my position on affirmative action has been cleared ever since i left the professional football career for congress in nineteen seventy some people think they're quick plan a few years earlier but i retired in nineteen seventy my life has been dedicated to equality of opportunity and our democracy should provide that naughty quality of reward affirmative action should be predicated upon need not the quality of the reward not a quality about the voters have always been against the american ideal we should

promote diversity and we should do it the way bob always been talking about the new civil rights agenda based upon expanding access to credit and capital job opportunities educational choice in our inner cities for a younger been mother can't get the type of education she wants her child and ultimately that type of ownership and entrepreneurship from public housing residents in dc dickerson gardens and what's los angeles people lead all and that's what abraham lincoln believed when people on something of a stake in the american dream that is affirmative action in america with all due respect i do not believe that abraham lincoln would have adopted bob dole's position to end all affirmative action there's a specific measure on the ballot in california it was embodied in legislation introduced by senator dole to apply to the whole nation mr camp campaigned

against it spoke against it wrote letters against it went to california to fight against it and now has in dorset i don't think it's a minor matter i think this is one of the most important challenges that our country has to face in the future and i hope that mr camp will try to persuade senator dole two about mr phelps position instead of the other where one of their borders are positive light as you write what is the scale we have a serious race problem was they really do on this country has yet to deal with the type of inclusion our policies so i'm very important for americans white and why do and christian immigrant and native born to sit down and talk and listen to begin to understand what it's like to come from that different perspective our

country is out as the kerner commission report suggested a number of years ago was being split but they say between white and why i think it's a split not so much between white black although that's still a very serious problem we really have two economies are general economy our national economy of mainstream mainstream economy is a democratic it's based on incentives for small piano it's capitalism and incentives for working and saving and investing and producing and their families and the things that really lead to progress of that ladder that we call the american dream awake is really universal and unfortunately in urban america and i was glad to hear the vice president talk a little bit about it there they've abandoned inner cities there's a socialist economy is no private housing is mostly public housing you're told where to go to school you've told what to buy with food stamps

it as a welfare system that is more like a third world socialist country and what we would expect from the world's greatest democratic free enterprise system that must change it will honor bob dole and jack kemp from or what i said just a moment ago if it or not so he would have told the problems between races in america must be addressed the good news is we're making progress we've seen ten and a half million new jobs created in the last four years we've seen the unemployment rate come down dramatically we've seen the african american unemployment rate go below double digits for the first time in twenty five years and it stayed below for twenty five months in a row we had empowerment zones and enterprise communities one hundred and five of them in communities all across the united states of america me tell you a story about joanne crowder in detroit she was on welfare for eight

years until the empowerment zone was created there she just got a job in the new business that that launched its enterprise right and that empowerment zone we want to do that for millions more all across the country well with all due respect their nine empowerment zones a few little tinkering with tax credits around the country for inner cities los angeles after the riots did not even get an empowerment zone believe it or not as just unconscionable of america to the left wants us employees to lay out earl grey is a black enterprise magazine said the single greatest deterrent to black advancement is a lack of access to capital credit and ownership that will change we will bring line every city in the united states where there's unemployment and welfare and we will eliminate the gap again that's eliminate the tax on the wealthy mother that it's a job that's the answer your ownership and entrepreneurship low income people based on maybe

not the color of their skin as vice president if reelected what would what could we look forward to in the way of an inner city policy from war second the second term before i answered that specific question let me say that we did put on empowerment zone in south central los angeles is in the form of the largest community development financial institution ever created in the united states or in any other country it is creating jobs in south central los angeles right now the congress passed a law an enterprise zone after the los angeles riots five years ago it was vetoed by the prior administration now your questions we have a specific plan to create one million new jobs in the inner cities of america with tax credits for employers who hire people coming off welfare as we pass welfare reform now we promised to end welfare as we know it and we are implementing this new legislation we have moved one

point nine million people off of the welfare rolls and into good jobs in the last four years our new plan is to have one million more jobs in the inner cities but that's not all we are also implementing the plan to put one hundred thousand community police officers in our cities we've already got twenty thousand out there were ahead of our six your schedule is about factor eight year in st petersburg already on the beach you may run into while leaving this auditorium tonight st petersburg is safer because of this urban agenda that we're following what we want the focus to be on millions more jobs and we're very optimistic that it's going to happen we've heard for years and there's no enterprise so there are empowerment zones but he had to do with bill clinton al gore wanted to do you get a five thousand dollars tax credit if you hire somebody is unemployed which of our to get an existing business the answer is to say once again green line any area in america that has been a red

line for lack of mortgage money lack of credit and capital to say that area qualifies for no capital gains tax the room not as what eleanor holmes norton wants to do in the district of columbia and this administration said the dc dropped dead robin we don't want to change the legislation that would lower the tax rate and they say allow welfare mothers take a job without any tax on the first one hundred ninety percent of her income and no campaigns acts as a big on every corner in america that would make capital flow back and you can't have capitalism now without capital you may want to give the tax rate it won't work well we have one hundred and five empowerment zones and enterprise communities all across the united states of america and with all due respect that's one hundred and five more than were there when we came into the white house we have been implementing them in a determined way they are making a difference in about empowerment zone that i

mentioned in detroit is creating jobs not only for join crowder who feels proud but she's also welfare now and we're proud of her it's creating jobs for hundreds of others and similar initiatives are working in the other empowerment zones you said recently that one of the problems related to this that was that all the capitol was in the hands of the white people the single greatest problem in our opinion domestically in the domestic economy is that this tax code eighty three years old a relic of the cold war in a hot war inflation and depression seven and half million words long over taxes capital over taxes working men and women and families clarity the gordian knot needs to be broken in one fell swoop bob dole and jack kemp says we get through this first step of cutting tax rates across the board and repealed all go well bill

clinton my friend al gore defend the status quo or to repeal the seven and half million words view estates and make it once and for all tax income once not twice three four and that i would confiscate your estate as an acceptable we must have a tax code one of the twenty percent tree that does not protect the establishment and this tax code does and by cutting and eliminating the capital gains by cutting eliminating the estate tax or bring in the top tax rate down to something reasonable like keri goes again i think the senate should be higher by that i don't think they are twenty five percent the phase that the capital will flow out in the economy we would help people get access to capital small businessmen and women african american asian americans latino americans female americans they were started businesses david rest of the lancaster said the day the tax bill is passed in the congress she will open a new factory with fourteen figures sixty employees in

lancaster pennsylvania impala trickle down i called niagara falls the problem with this version of niagara falls is that centered on this trip came up with what the american economy in a barrel and send it over before so it is a risky five hundred and fifty billion dollar tax scheme that actually raises taxes on nine million of the hardest working families again <unk> him propose that and called an unconscionable now it is part of the plan that he has supported not only that though it would blow a hole in the deficit it would raise interest rates that means higher mortgage payments critically those with a variable rate mortgages hire car and once it would also lead to much steeper cuts in medicare medicaid education and the environment it is extremely risky as for these harsh words i don't take them personally he said much worse about bob dole when he said bob

dole never met a tax that he didn't hike he wrote about four hundred and fifty separate provisions in that coat you better check with him before you eliminate it completely maybe getting royalties they aren't jam of five hundred and fifty billion dollars tax cut this audio was not one i mentioned has to be viewed against the context again of a fifty trillion dollar us economy output of goods and services over the next six years five hundred fifty billion dollar tax cut and a fifty trillion dollar economy over six years is one and a half percent and they only hold would blow is a hole in the plans of this administration to try to tinker with the tax code and defend the indefensible it would blow up a bureaucracy that you expand the economy that's important to america but what about the second point is medical what kinds of what we need is to throw away the current president tax code while hall's new taxes from you agree with that we've

passed the a taxpayer bill of rights we have fought for new provisions that now make it possible to fall over the telephone we're fighting for tax reforms across the board and most importantly we have a plan on the table right now that cut taxes on middle income families with several specific provisions we already cut taxes on fifteen million working families in this country with an average of about a thousand dollars in tax relief for those making twenty five thousand dollars a year or less and for the last two years we have had middle income tax cuts on the table in the congress and they would not they were accepted by bob dole and newt gingrich because they said they would not pass them without cutting deeply into medicare medicaid education and the environment we are determined to move forward during these next four years with the tax cuts that

president bill clinton has proposed here they are again a fifteen hundred dollar tax credit for tuitions at eight ten thousand dollar tax deductions so that no family pays taxes on the money for college tuition capital gains a laminated for the sale of a home a tax break for first time homebuyers and for health care expenses and a five hundred dollars child tax credit you only get exact immigrant administration if you do exactly what al gore and bill clinton wants to do as not america when john f kennedy cut tax rates economy grew unemployment down we balance the budget and revenues went up and jd secretary treasurer john f kennedy deputy secretary treasury under john f kennedy indoors bob dole plan to cut rates cut the cabbage index balance the budget provide a five hundred dollars tax credit and clearly

the plan should be left the economy to get more revenue medicare will be saved because it'll be put into a commission for both bill clinton and bob dole recognize it has to be studied by the same people that would study or a study i should say the social security system and say did in nineteen eighty three and eighty four but we can bring down government the growth in government spending we have to grow the economy and bob dole and jack kemp's opinion we should aim at doubling the size of the american economy in the next fifteen years under their policies will take thirty to forty years that's not acceptable the chairman of their national campaign's steering committee senator d'amato said that bob dole would have to cut into medicare in order to pay for this proposal but that he would wait until after the election to do the proposal would cut medicare that senator dole push before and shut down the government that tried to enact would have

already raised by two hundred and sixty eight dollars the fees paid by the average couple now on medicare he tried to double the deductibles and give people less in return we have a balanced budget plan that protects medicare and gives tax cuts mr camp is it really possible to balance the budget without reforming drastically the entitlement programs including social security and medicare or as they say it is disgraceful a campaign being waged to scare americans senior citizens in this state and my home state of well the ark california about medicare medicaid and maryland now that the nominees that to try to mislead the american people is demagoguery

and only in the clinton white house and al gore's mine could increase in spending per capita on the senior citizens from forty eight hundred dollars in nineteen ninety six two seventy two hundred in over the next five years he considered a cut is anybody that model lomas gave his life for his country who has served in the senate to help save social security crawled out of the foxhole on riva ridge in northern italy nineteen forty five say they wanted a radio is anybody think in this country that he could possibly want to move our country ahead and leave anybody behind of course we can balance the budget course we have to hold down the growth in entitlement spending but clearly you cannot balance the budget and without a growing us economy is only going to an ampersand we should double the rate of growth in which a double the size of the american economy as means more jobs more well more income and more capital particularly for our nation's poor and those

left behind so our balanced budget plan it stands the medicare trust fund ten years into the future of commission his farm but a commission would not do any good if we adopt of this risky five hundred and fifty billion dollar tax scheme the ward's kerry has been used couple days ago i went with governor lawton chiles who is here to sarasota to the friendship senior center i talked with a woman there named dorothy war now and she said you know we may not be as sophisticated as some of those people in washington but we can add and subtract here are the numbers she's adding and subtracting bob dole's plant would have already imposed an extra two hundred and sixty eight dollars on the average medicare receiving couple and what his plan would have double deductibles it would've cost an extra one thousand seven hundred dollars over the lifetime of his plan and illuminated nursing home standards and

guarantees of nursing home care for seniors that bill clinton prevent it from happening we will never allow that that gm on medicare is too important to senior citizens around this country the blatant side the politics of being played on this issue is losing eighty billion dollars as we stand here tonight by the president's own trustees of medicare three members of which serve in his cabinet it will be losing twenty three billion dollars a year of nineteen ninety eight something must be done but wilson said suggested a commission but you cannot save medicare social security or any program for the social welfare net of american people and with it should not be loved all unless we grow this economy at least twice the rate is going to make that decision not scaring people in america it was a gauge of demagoguery

well as i said before he used much harsher language when he talked about a whole is said that tom bob dole solution for every single problem was the increased taxes he said just so two years ago that the bob dole tax increase of nineteen eighty two was the largest tax increase in history all the world but let's get to the point of medicare has been adjusted twenty three times since it was created in nineteen sixty five bob dole incidentally just brag that this year that he was one of only twelve people who voted against the creation of medicare in the first place i don't think he's even believe in advance and the plan that he promoted last year would have certainly been devastating to medicare again don't take my word for it the american hospital association said he could have closed seven hundred hospitals the catholic health

association the aarp author and many other groups to pay careful attention to medicare said that the dole gingrich plan on medicare would have led to deep cuts possibly set up a two tiered system and would have a candidate the kind of medicare system that we have our plan to extend medicare ten years into the future we will always protect medicare with young the context of a balanced budget plan folks they have nowhere they have absolutely no plans of the president himself suggested that the reduction in the growth of medicare over the next five or six years on to be held to six percent under the republican plan irrespective of the numbers it will grow at seven or even more present but that is beside the point what has to

be discussed is how we as a nation are going to create the size of an economy rate and national wealth at least double there's six or seven trillion dollar economy we would have six trillion dollars in fifteen years extra well the american people another trillion dollars of revenue with ways to save medicare social security and you can't do it with a tax code and a regulatory clarity and people suing each other with frivolous suits as this administration is allowing to help and has to change it will in a bottle and second mr kemp has unintentionally made a mistake and saying that president clinton called for a reduction to six percent or whatever that set of leave you're referring to the money magazine interview and the publisher of money magazine dissent mr camp a letter two days ago asking him to please stop in accurately siding money magazine it is not what the president said it is not the president's

position let me make clear what his position is we will save medicare we will stop efforts to hurt medicare and will do it with even a balanced budget plan there's a camp what if anything what i don't care but ministration do to change the current legal status of abortion in this country i will answer that question but for the record i would like to really use the letter to a friend's place of the letter i got from money magazine suggesting that bill clinton wanted and get lower the cost of living allowance for senior citizens is a way of reducing social security when that aside the we recognize there's no consensus in america this country is split between those who call themselves pro choice and i'm sure very sincerely and those of us who call ourselves for a lie is a very emotional issue i'm sure it is for a woman it certainly is for those of us like my wife and myself

who have three adopted and grandchildren we thank god every night of our lives and a young woman was given a joyous was given the opportunity to choose life countries should not be torn asunder over this debate has to be carried out with civility and respect and bob and i believe a candy but we should recognize that every human life is precious and that should be all the protection that we can give her an unborn human pain and i think that in this country or every three birds there isn't one abortion but even worse than that as ugly as it might be i know is a tragedy and many people both on the pro chosen from my position we have a president who vetoed a congressional ban on the ugly and gruesome practice of snatching life away from a child just moments before he or she enters a world

that isn't acceptable rosen one has made it clear but he will sign legislation outlawing procedures such as this enough there is a an exception to protect the health of the mother were serious health consequences such as the inability to have any further children or involved and her doctor advises her so what is really at stake here is whether or not women will have the right to choose the platform on which industry camp and senator dole are running pledges a constitutional amendment to take away a woman's right to choose and to have the government come in and order that moment to do what the government says no matter what the circumstances mr campos voted forty seven out of forty seven times to have me such an amendment and to restrict that is completely no matter what the circumstances even where

rape and incest is involved we will never allow a woman's right to choose to be taken away there is no consensus a constitutional amendment would not pass we must use persuasion not intimidation bob dole sat down to try to remind the american people of what a tremendous asset our children are and why there should be protection for innocent human life including that of the unborn but i think that this administration vetoed the one chance they had to ban that practice without working with people in the congress or with a lot of had the opportunity to stop the gruesome practice is just unacceptable the american people bob dole would never have vetoed that ban on partial birth abortions the third trimester a woman's riggs was vice president is the war in bosnia really over or zuckerberg yet again once the us and the nato troops leave the fighting has

stopped in bosnia president bill clinton showed tremendous courage vision wisdom and leadership in having our country take the lead in rallying our allies bringing the warring factions together in dayton ohio and hammering out a peace agreement that has ended the war in bosnia we hope that it will stay over where elections have just been held there is great progress toward peace and reconciliation in bosnia we are the very prow mr soldiers who have played such a critical role in bringing about this he's in bosnia it's not the only case were built one has provided such leadership we have restored democracy to haiti was scarcely a shot being far we have seen movement toward reconciliation in northern ireland and in the middle east the bible says there will always be wars and rumors of wars as the presence of the other neither

always be troubles in his old world but the united states of america can be counted on to provide the vision that the world looks for food from the united states of america bill clinton as president has provided that kind of leadership we are more secure and stronger today because of bill clinton's handling of foreign policy bob dole supported the deployment of troops in bosnia but the problem with the foreign policy of this administration there is not somebody was contradictory it is a precipitous going throughout iraqi bombing before we had even consulted with our allies think that sam nunn georgiou colin powell put together the coalition in the persian gulf or not even consultant it was ninety percent and as it was assigned not a strength of weakness what's

worse they declare victory every deployment more deployments for years in any previous four years i can think of i'm sixty one years of age it's unbelievable that ambiguity can be called a foreign policy than say what a friend of mine told me i believe that my whole career weakness is provocative and our message to be clear and thats what our message would be to the world and a model as commander in chief of the united states of america we did of course consult with our allies before we bombed of saddam hussein but sometimes the united states has to take unilateral action where when our interests are at stake and general schwarzkopf us in the audience tonight were awfully proud of the way he led our coalition organized under former president bush when the united states wear head toward the rik paul singh of saddam hussein from

kuwait three times as he's tried to get out of that box saddam hussein has felt was think of ace with certain response from the united states of america under president bill clinton but campos hundred dollars so criticize the president on haiti and all that long what they do wrong well it was a bob dole suggested that there be a fact finding commission president carter was on a corn palace on you cannot say mr beatty is a great success where it was maybe the right thing to do but we did not going with enough information we cause problems in the first place by the nine caribbean countries and third world countries a chance to trade freely in the united states it causes economic problems and turmoil in the region around as we did in mexico have and they'll now we cause the problem lay's and augustus twenty to fifty billion dollars to

bail out at is very ambiguous at best we protect the democracy comes to haiti that so far the message from at is quite ambiguous notwithstanding evaporation a victory by this administration ordinary thing wrong but the fact is we restore democracy in haiti when us a restored actually it's the first real democracy that haiti has ever had and it happened with scarcely any shots being far i was in the oval office tonight when president clinton despite start troops from fort bragg it was a tense moment the planes were in the air and our negotiators were talking with the dictator down there and when a dictator got the news from his spies outside the gate that all these planes were taking off he said let's get out of here

that's how it was done it was one of the most deft use is of diplomacy and military force in combination that you would find anywhere in the annals of the history of this country i was so proud of our president in the way he handled that and the result so far is excellent and we hope and pray that it will remain that way many more resorts like bosnia haiti mexico and they're lazy we won't have much success one of the most serious or more serious problems was the tremendous effort by this administration to force on mexico a devaluation their base so the economy has dropped by almost forty to fifty percent and we're going to bail them out because the problem and then we had to bail him out we should have a foreign policy is predicated upon trade on spreading democracy by giving people opportunities to trade freely with us and making sure that everybody recognizes the rule of the golden rule do unto others as you would have them do indian

diplomacy first and job are before breakfast as vice president of mexico because the problem and then to go in and they'll now know that's not right when i'm when the scams start talk about the golden rule i thought he was going to talk about the gold standard again that used to be an integral part of the so called the supply side economics but it made the young something else that he now agrees with bob dole on because bob dole going to take us off the gold standard wise vote in my opinion most it all economists say that if we did that it would throw us into a deep recession or depression in throw millions of out of work but when he come directly to this question know when there was a crisis involving the mexican peso again president bill clinton showed poll and dynamic leadership i want to hasten to add that senator bob dole gave critical bipartisan support at the time he agreed with the president he

supported the president he said this is a wise move he could not get a majority in the senate and speaker gingrich did not get a majority in the house to go on record in support on it so the president as presidents often have to do with it along and did the right thing you know people said it was a big risk at that time we've ended up making a five hundred million dollar profit all of the loans have been payback we're using that five hundred million dollars to further reduce the deficit it's come down sixty percent already it's going down even more toward a balanced budget and this has helped i don't believe that we can take drop in the standard of living of a friendly country like mexico by nearly forty to fifty percent unemployment goes up we send us tax dollars and i am of money still

throughout mexico and we make a profit at that level that it gives new meaning to the word profitability for us foreign policy the pain suffering the unemployment bankruptcies was disturbing the people that i come across the border in california arizona new mexico and texas if that's our foreign policy for the third world or latin america i believe more than ever we got elected president who understands trade one stands on his money will understand private enterprise once as democratic capitalism not socialism caused by the imf and the clinton administration well i fail to understand the basis of the charges that we caused the monetary crisis in mexico they manage their own monetary policy years ago we used to hear of this phrase in american politics the blame america first crowd i never liked that phrase if it was gonna be applied today it would have to be applied to the statement the united states of america shouldn't be

blamed for the management of mexico's monetary policy we helped our neighbor in an hour of need and they survive their stronger they're coming back they paid us back and we got a dividend in the process but the campus underbelly of that criticize president clinton for cutting defense spending and thus cutting jobs in california is that i have been spending should be seen as a jobs program as well i don't think it's the end that bob dole was suggested that the defense of our country is a jobs or a social economic program but it's clear that the defense budget this administration has taken defenses a percent of our national economy to a lower level than it was prior to pearl harbor as dangerous and as provocative and the mixed messages the ambiguities of us foreign policy are i believe and bob global aids is causing not only problems for this country throughout the world

particularly here at home and the type of changes that were made overnight california cause a very severe dislocations and then of course the president ran out to california announced well maybe we'll have another be one of the two bomber but that is not the way policy should be made it should be predicated upon the defense needs security needs strategically of the eyes its america and that's all that remain under bob always present well first of all there are virtually no large differences in defense budgets put forward by president clinton and put forward by the majority in the congress in the last two years are very very similar there is a huge difference in our economic plan this risky five hundred and fifty billion dollar tax scheme that out talked about earlier is said by the concord coalition including republicans like he hears and warren rudman to pose a threat to our nation's ability to have a sensible defense budget in the future they gone on

record as saying that this tax scheme not only raise taxes on nine million hard working american families what would also lead almost inevitably to deep cuts in medicare and in defense we have a balanced budget plan that protects the defense budget also medicare medicaid education the environment and give tax use tax cuts for middle income families him out last year one more time every time in this century we've lowered the tax rates across the board on employment savings investments and risk taking in this economy revenues went up not down at the purpose of the tax code is to raise revenue we ought to think as john f kennedy good about lowering the rates they can go to zero they can't go too low because of not enough revenue but president clinton apologized in houston first say what separates your taxes

and they're to why president bush apologized for raising taxes bob dole knows the race after come down across the board and then it will get to the most important part to repeal is going to go to a new system but a twenty percent three vice presidents us and democrats charge that the environment would be in jeopardy if that's an interval are elected do you share that fear i certainly do let me first say that inciting john f kennedy's the tax cut of nineteen sixties i want also wrote reminds you that <unk> campus pointed out in the past bob dole was in the congress that he was one of those who voted against john f kennedy's tax cut the environment faces got threats from the kind of legislation that senator dole and speaker newt gingrich tried to pass by shutting down the government and attempting to force president clinton to accept that they invited the lobbyist for the biggest polluters in america to come into the congress and literally rewrite the clean water

act and the clean air president clinton stopped them dead in their tracks we have a positive agenda on the environment because we believe very deeply but it's about our children and our future clean air and clean water cleaning up toxic waste sites and millions of children live within one mile of them that's important we have a plan to clean up two thirds of the toxic waste sites in america over the next four years we've already cleaned up more in the last three years in the previous two administrations didn't well the president just set aside the utah national monument is protecting the everglades here in florida bob dole is opposed to that plan president bill clinton will protect our environment and prevent the kind of attacks on it that we saw in the last congress and that are included in the republican platform and so bob dole right now really

franklin roosevelt's in nineteen thirty two that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself the only thing gm and offer is fear fear of the environment here of the climate where fear of the medicare in fear of the new pair of republicans there a bomb you probably fear of cutting tax rates banks enough the new look we recognize this country has to live in balance with our environment every one of us who had children and grandchildren i recognize how we have to reach a balance is not jobs versus our environment both are important is the most over regulated over a letter dated economy in our nation's history and it caught a business man or woman sits down and has a chance to express his or interest in how to make these laws work and call them polluter is as

outrageous is typical of the anti capitalistic mentality of this administration that will change because we believe in democratic capitalism for everybody there are lots of jobs to be created and cleaning up the environment all around the world were seeing problems that people want to sell because they love their children they want them to be able to drink clean water and breathe clean air they don't want them to live now it's the toxic waste sites when the united states of america takes the lead in protecting the environment we do right by our children and we also create new business opportunities new jobs new sources of prosperity for the united states of america and we're going about it in a common sense way but a camp immaturity before dude said they'll meet the press sunday that the federal government engages in quote regulation reign of terror what exactly do me no exactly just what i said on regulations it would take property

or reduced the value some farmer or rancher are homeowners property for wetlands are endangered species and take that property or reduces value without compensating the honor that is a reign of terror is happening in oregon not too long ago a farmer to twenty five percent of his property and declared it a way to let it add the runoff of snow that allowed it to be acquired a weapon but he didn't sell voluntarily he found within a couple of years that the bald eagle began to use it as a habit that the corps of engineers you're a wildlife and fisheries all of the federal agencies came on his property declared it a federal wetland and said he couldn't drive because they took away the road you couldn't men dispenses and they wouldn't pay the value of the loss of the vessel they wouldn't they are compensated i should

say for the loss of value to the property how can we as a free society turn people into enemies or adversaries of united states government osha doesn't epa doesn't burden does it a new name and we should recognize that this country should live in no interest in such a way as to build an alliance with our free enterprise system they can build a better america for our children and our grandchildren we can do it it's going to take new leadership in washington will replace values that recognize the importance of the information this camp of voted against the clean water act voted against the renewal of the super fun pack we have been taking a new approach protecting the environment and what getting rid of unnecessary regulations we're limiting sixteen thousand pages of regulations we've entered a into a new project called project x elvis's at the epa where we enter into a bargain with businesses when they say will exceed the standards we say give us give the epa way to measure the

progress in and throw away the rule book altogether now this is the kind of common sense approach that can clean up the environment while eliminating unnecessary red clay make no mistake about it though there are those who would like to go much further some have even proposed in this bill these sites would do it that the looters ought to be paid if they agree to stop dumping poisons into the river of papal looters provision is wrong we fought against that will never allow that when i went to congress from buffalo nineteen seventy you could almost walk across lake erie because of pollution today thanks to the secondary and tertiary treatment plants which many of us voted for on both sides of the aisle which actually started in richard nixon a republican president our water is cleaner in the great lakes with

that a lot of progress that we've made and we gonna make more but to turn the country into a regulatory effort by the federal government to suggest that we can't work in harmony with the environment business it's a big mistake we should use incentives not always using sticks against business in america and the job of the greats but the vice president as the government of the anatomy of the united states is now operated by the clinton ministration operate on a reign of terror fiorina care no of course not we're taking a brand new approach to eliminate unnecessary regulates and unnecessary bureaucracy we've got lots of examples of this there was a story in the newspaper the other day about the home testing kit that the fda had held up that happened under a rule in the last administration we said change that rule it's being changed now it's under consideration by the fda right now

and it will be changed there are thousands of other examples we believe that there is a new approach for me give you an example from ocean we are reinventing the way ocean doesn't stop some people would like to eliminate ocean we think that the protection of job safety in the workplace is very very important but what we said as well start measuring the results we found that the inspectors were being rewarded on the basis of how minnie finds they issued we changed that completely they're used to going in give somebody a fine if they didn't have a poster on the wall in forming employees of their rights to use this as an example of our new approach now that they go in and see the posters not there they go out of the trunk of a car and give them a poster its the same approach that we're taking in all the regulatory agencies were making a lot of progress we want the protection with common sense not

nonsense well what we have to have the type of economic prosperity oh i was to generate revenues to provide this technology ten percent of all emissions ten percent of all high low carbon emissions oxides going to be year are caused by just ten percent or one hundred percent of all the missions are caused by ten percent of the automobiles now there is technology that would allow infrared technology be used to identify those cars that are providing for the pollution in our atmosphere is not been able to be used because we're going to take every automobile driver in america all one hundred and ten million automobiles and shards and seventeen or twenty or twenty five dollars lot well go after one's a balloon not go after the men and women who wanted it would drive their automobile to work or school and i make sure they have that type of opportunity to live like everyone else without having themselves regulated by and watch an establishment

we can use technology that's the answer but to get the technology that ever growing economy is economy is not growing fast enough and it will honor bob dole and jack kemp well the economy is growing very strongly right now we've had ten and a half million new jobs created just in the last four years in the last quarter the growth rate was four point seven percent the average growth rate is also coming up it is higher than in either of the last two republican administrations bob dole said in february of this year this is the strongest economy in thirty years the conservative business journal barracks says this is the strongest economy in thirty years we've got a good solid growth what's don't risk it on some five hundred and fifty billion dollar risky scheme what level of years the campaigns and the economy is not growing the way it should be well as i said earlier gm it's a set to breadwinners to do what one breadwinner could have done just a relatively few short years ago

as long as a woman or man was to that we're going to be their joys and in america today that woman or man must work in a family to want to pay the tax and the other to help the family that's not america it doesn't leave enough time for the children and doesn't leave enough time for people to enjoy their families it does not be able to say that a family is the most over text institution in the united states of america when i was drawn up in los angeles a family the median level of income might have sent four or five percent of their income to the federal government today it's close to thirty at least twenty seven or twenty eight and that's just unacceptable and for al gore to keep suggesting that we can afford to reduce the tax rates across the board on the american people and the formation of the capital necessary to creep in a job for america is just totally at odds with the experience of both ronald reagan john f kennedy and other times in this century one

other thing that's very very important to call her risky scheme reminds me of the facts this administration has suggested that they're going to give the attacks that if he'll do what they want to do they want to cut the gap again tax but only for homeowners what the small business men and women of america the great ninety one percent of all the jobs my daddy was a truck driver who bought the truck and started a company we need more truck drivers becoming truck owners and they can't do it if they don't have access to the capital and the seaport for the next generation of track and jobs for americans we've had the creation of more new small businesses in the last four years in each of the last three years and in any other year in all of american history we've seen the creation of ten and a half million new jobs we have the lowest combined rates of inflation and unemployment in thirty years business week magazines that these are the kind of results that you want more inflation lower

interest rates more jobs and more growth all within the context of a balanced budget we have reduced the budget deficit for years in a row we've cut it down sixty percent after it went up by almost a three hundred percent during the previous two administrations now this is the kind of growth that we want more art we think we can do much better still that's why we're pushing these income tax cuts for middle income families in the context of a balanced budget that protects important programs for years to let you thought was that four years ago and we still on out how can we trust an illustration and all the sudden four years into or the last year of its four years tells us it now follow through on the promise they made four years ago this economy is not growing fast enough

the haves are doing well with gm have nots are not very well there are people hurting families can stay together as jobs that are not being created and the unemployment rate in our nation's inner cities is somewhere between sixteen and twenty five percent as morally and socially unacceptable in a modern day economy as vice president a summer ball raced same question the president on the other night by keeping promises made what is your reaction to that what your response to that charge against you in the president's week as president bill clinton promised to create a million jobs he's created ten and a half million new jobs he promised to cut the budget deficit in half he has caught it by sixty percent he promised in the welfare as we know it he passed and signed welfare reform law he has already moved one point nine million people off the welfare rolls into good jobs we got a plan to move one million

more off welfare during the next four years he promised to implement the death penalty we passed an anti crime bill that has sixty new death penalty provisions he promised to pass a plan that would put one hundred thousand new police officers on the streets is long over the opposition and senator dole and twenty thousand of them are already on the streets two thousand of them had been funded already for here in florida where ahead of schedule and we're going to get the additional eighty thousand new police officers on the streets in the coming four years forty five thousand of them are now already funded that has a record of promises made and promises kept he promised middle income tax cuts we've cut taxes for fifteen million families and our plan to cut them for all middle income families has been waiting for action in the congress for two full years in the next four years we will pass it

well it ought to say that this is the best economy and thirty years has daggers the imagination we have a growth rate of the last four years of about two and a half percent of our friend al gore says is better than the reagan years isn't that irrespective of whether you think that is not means less than the fact that this country cannot morally and socially economically accept an economy running out the clock on the twentieth century were treading water we have families are hurting we're people are unemployed we have people with no property we have an administration that is demolishing public housing in our inner cities and not providing anything else but more public housing their solution to the inner city is more issues expression that is true socialism it is not for the people it is for the government to tell a mortal in order those four when his school choice when

egypt privatized public housing we need to sell it to the residents you put enterprise zones and into america and we need to lower the rates of taxation of labor capital and the factors of production will have another couple we are demolishing the outdated projects that did not work and we are replacing them with new units that do work and we have private vouchers so that individuals can choose for themselves where they live and were selling these units to many of those who want to buy them with the camp had a good idea when he advocated that years ago he talked about it we get it and we're going to do a lot more of it if we had the opportunity with the help of the american people campo some are saying these days that something's gone terribly wrong the american solar company himself be too and caring and the spitting incident how it was handled baseball where do you as a recent example we think about

civility responsibility racial reconciliation in the wombs of our country has to be one of the greatest most singular important goals for this country here on the edge of the twenty first century falling the name of american democracy can we say to eastern europe the democratic capitalism will work there if we can make it work in east la or east harlem our east palo alto calif apple intel south africa and the new mandela government a democracy and private property and limited government will all stability warfare it is not working their own backyard bird whole of the south bronx out that america go into the next century and leave so many people behind usa today just a few weeks ago to study is it the affluent are doing very

well in america perhaps have nots and the poor are being left behind it's a giant in my opinion a zero sum game and like musical chairs when we were young boys and girls growing up and it seem like when the music stopped the big idea what about the little guy from that last year as non american vote we need more chairs we need a bigger table we need a greater bank what we needed for a more well we need to create more jobs and more access to credit and capital and educational choice an opportunity for any man or woman and child to be what god meant them to be not what washington dc wants i think that throughout much of his career jack kemp has been a powerful and needed voice against the kind of coarseness and in civility that you referred to in the question i think it's an extremely valuable service to have a voice within the

republican party who says we ought to be one nation we ought to cross all of the racial and ethnic and cultural barriers i think that is a very important message to deliver and we ought to speak out against these other violations of civilian when they do occur you asked about that the incident involving roberto alomar i won't hesitate to tell you what i think i think he should have been severely disciplined suspended perhaps immediately i don't understand why that action was not taken but the same could be said of so many incidents in all kinds of institutions in our society and i compliment must account for the leadership he has shown in moving us away from that kind of attitude i mean that very very since early but i'm

gonna make a bigger point that civility cannot return to our country unless every person feels they other people shot at the american great if you're born in this country to be a mezzo soprano or a master gardener or a schoolteacher and my daughter a professional football quarterback nothing should be in your way and removing those barriers is what bob dole is all about moving our country forward and leaving no one behind the theory that this is that in order to solve the promise of the road at the problems in the american soul you happen if an economic problem with them into something else i think that economics is one of the single most important parts of this problem that's why we're focusing on tax credits to hire one million more people coming off welfare in the inner city that's why we're focusing on an economic policy that has already created ten and a half million new jobs and it's going to create millions more within the

context again of a balanced budget that protects important programs we have focused especially on the most distressed areas because we cannot leave anyone behind our common songs and enterprise communities the tax credits that will encourage the formation of new businesses a new approach by the small business administration to get more loans out two individuals that have not had an equal access to capital in the past these are parts of the plant another part of it is the community development financial institutions and that it and the law that says deposits that are made in a community in the intercity say should be kept in the community not entirely but some percentage of them should be kept there that prevents that money being taken from the community and invested in some go go investment on the other side of the

world and what they invest in the community they find that there's a better payback write more small businesses are created and the community improves that's happening in america today not fast enough but faster than before and we think we can accelerate with our plan there really is no separation between a strong community as strong economy and you can't ever stride finally with us from communities is from families the word economics in great pain from the word family or law or custom of the family a family without a job where your bread winners are away from home we cannot spend time with their children or can't send a child to the school of their choice rather than just the joys of the federal bureaucracy can not possibly be a strong as a family as a nurturer

a lot of the dignity of the just as it goes along with one breadwinner a strong job and of that man or woman was to work it's their choice nudges to pay taxes so when he bought when he struck him in a really strong schools many schools and nurture the type of discipline or respect from teachers and parents and bob dole was to empower the public school district and the teachers are not the federal bureaucracy at the department of education senator dole has said that he wants to abolish the department of education he voted against the creation of head start he vigorously oppose the family and medical leave act which was the first law that president clinton signed as president now senator dole has suggested that he would repeal the family and medical leave act if he had the chance if he was elected president we believe in more educational opportunity and measures to strengthen families not restrict their access to education scam

speaking of them where you come down that you argue we should be repealed the family only that i would've voted for and it's in place and their answer this administration every single problem is another regulation another tax cut clarity in america what i am astounded the fact that you can have a strong family leave act or policy by a business if they're not making a profit if their lives jobs if there isn't the type of policies that will enhance the formation of this economy oxygen in the capital you allow that company not only to retain that problem but to invest it as i said earlier been appraised of lancaster pennsylvania who runs a small little manufacturing or distribution center in lancaster said she as an entrepreneur would start a whole new factory if the federal government would cut the cost of capital she wants

the capital gains rate reduced and a through l gore and build on that is somehow trickle down economics fellow at the dana priest talented than one's talent to the men and women that i met in seoul central don't think anybody who understands how to make democratic capitalism work i don't see it one more time the real excitement about talk of administrative would be to get out of this current tax code and redistributes wealth and create a brand new system for the twenty percent are in this pro family pro growth and stops the double triple and quadruple taxation of income from works at his investment and entrepreneurial risk taking in america the question as i recall it was about family and medical leave here's how it works if you have a child who is critically ill or has been seriously injured and you have to stay with that child in the hospital some employers have said you can't take too much time off

in spite of these circumstances i personally know people who have been fired because they made the choice to be with their child don't tell me this doesn't happen it happens all across the united states but since bill clinton made his the first law he signed it has been used twelve million times by american families to reconcile the demands of work with the responsibilities to the family we now will extend to pta meetings and schedule doctors' appointments it shouldn't be repealed it ought to be standard seventy five percent of businesses who have had experience with it say they like it it works well i was here before bill clinton and i will be here after though senator saunders a good friend of one of our eyes president or suggested that he was afraid his party was falling into the trap of letting the

employee but haiti the employer you cannot love labor and hate employers you cannot drive this wedge between workers and management and businesses were providing family they will continue they shouldn't they gonna make a profit and the tax on business capitol labor and families is july enable we want to reduce that regulatory burden and that tax burden in a neutral campus richard tilghman that was the last question so now we go to the closing statements there'll be three minutes each and cooking fuel for decades yemen thanks to the people of the st petersburg area fantastic hospitality and my friend al gore for a vigorous debate i think this is the most exciting time in the history of the world to be alive we lived through what jeane kirkpatrick all

the bloodiest century in mankind's history we had to feed him in this system of ours fascism nazi ism communism socialism is defunct or he bumped around the world the evil of apartheid has ended there's only one last question remaining for the next century indeed the next millennium can we in america make the world's greatest liberal democracy this democratic experiment in private property lemon grove limited government the rule of law respect for families and traditional judeo christian values work so it'll be a blessing to our country and a blessing for the rest of the world with all due respect to this administration and that foreign policy in disarray they have a lack of credibility around the world weakness i said earlier this provocative and clearly

this economy is not performing up to the standards that we would expect from this great nation going into the most exciting global economy the world has ever known there is something amiss our culture seems to be weakening all around us families are under tremendous pressure people do not do not feel safe in their homes a mother doesn't feel safe center charter schools are schools are not educated is not the problem of the teachers they are overworked my daughter would say they're underpaid and we know that they need to be in power we need to reform education we need to reform welfare we need reform litigation regulation and we certainly need to reform this tax code is a product of this terrible century of war and recession and inflation it can be done we need somebody who understands the potential of the american people that we're not just doing well for ourselves we need to do well

for the rest of the world because they're looking at us and we need to make it work in every neighborhood and community in america and for every family so that no one as bob dole said in a san diego acceptance speech is left behind bob dole as i said earlier is a man of courage a man of principles men crawled out about foxhole on rivers rage in nineteen forty five to save a wounded brother the bible says no greater love that the man they give his life well body had just about even through the valley of the shadow and he as commander in chief can take this country with the courage of churchill principles of lincoln and the indefatigable optimism spirit of this nation expect from us commander in chief and the next president of united states model thank you very much mr lehrer thanks

again to the people of st petersburg and thanks again to check out i have enormous respect for jack kemp and for bob dole they're good men i don't agree with their plan i've tried to make that clearer tonight and one reason i tried to make it clear is that in just twenty seven days the united states of america has an important choice to make between two approaches to the future of this country we have a plan that will create millions more jobs bring the deficits down further and balance the budget while protecting medicare protecting medicaid protecting and preserving the environment our air water the everglades the congress the mojave desert in california utah a red rocks carrier all of which have been protected by president bill clinton we also have a plan to expand access to

education there's a family in the audience tonight the macneil family lives right here in saint petersburg both parents or teachers are not rich in money but they have strong values and they value education their oldest son is a freshman at st petersburg junior high in junior college their younger son robert is a sophomore in the same high school that john mcneil teaches that roderick is concerned that he may not be able to get the tuition he needs to go to college when the time comes our plan gives a fifteen hundred dollar tax credit to make that junior college essentially free and a ten thousand dollars tax deduction to make it so that no american family are almost no family will have to pay taxes on the money they pay for college tuition this plan also gives

tax breaks on the sale of a home up to five hundred thousand dollars in profit tax free it gives a new break for first time homebuyers and again all in the context of a balanced budget we have seen progress during the last four years because policies like these have been working this risky scheme that i've described tonight has been said by many objective observers to not add up it would be a serious risk