American Experience; Reconstruction: The Second Civil War; Interview with David W. Blight, Historian, Yale University, part 5 of 6

a consultant to the snowmen of those in those who uses the metaphor to me talk about it briefly in analysts about the idea that there is a price because they're saying no why thank you there is a peculiar marital history in the sense that you have a genuine challenge to try and sing in part from within the republican party go shows for

forestry great owner can mountain of aliens who former abolitionists but you had become an outspoken proponent of national reconciliation and reconciliation reasons it made him so sensitive to not an expert on agricultural been speaking to his across the south we put the same question to raise questions aside the reconstruction aside another way to get on with expansion growth and loyal republicans in the senate who basically super tuesday national reconciliation and reconstruction the trees are in this movement for for some kind of civil service reform has the grandest the first administration was already in central oregon stands and corruption

and financial social grants is that the country was not quite yet those monitors unfettered not quite yet ready for a full throated complete national reconciliation one hero complex clan here in and in the midst of this apparent cairo's you know the democratic party going on across the south will block grants to read was reelected as a con president park in charge of corruption but also because in the wake of the nineteen seventy two

what was the issue with and then in reconstruction with just part of the business we're the only the part of some so i know one of the museum for the details of this attention of mission because the democrats gained the workforce of the region's reconstruction know for white supremacy and then they'd clean forces so are american because we weren't very short time but it is only four to ensure that you know they're going to show the democratic party majority in both houses of the us within a day the end of the civil war which has seemingly discredit one month in elections for congressional action for were clear indications that the

conscience part of the sixteen thousand th in this thing and i think it is one thing and you think the moment has already been treating but i want to see it more in terms of his moments of your from and also talk a little bit about how this decision so what are these things well the civil rights activists of the bill especially concerning for is just one example of how reconstruction politics and most severe flu in the same time we've got you know here one of the democrat's gain back control on so congress and the

republican party in close nonetheless i'm curious has to report as an homage to charles on the former abolitionists and rival republican senator from massachusetts and honor those who are just you know hands in recent days that is real and when she met who were arrested also unleashed finkelman speech about the component of the well protected education that was that was a remarkable because it's such a modern way into this and what

was the deal on discrimination or kinds of public facilities and transportation churches and home schooling our railroads tales entertains and so forth and so on the kinds of public access issues that would later become so much a part of the history of jim crow and the orphanage and crewman townsend true that shows a sickness you know on this most basic issue of access that same time isn't going because laurie hannigan seventy three the supreme court has so called slaughterhouse more is louisiana which has tarnished retiring

and scaled back he's a fighter the position for forty eight years destroyed roads or you could argue that the sort of searching for is in fact the last iraq reconstruction the various states along the earlier civil rights legislation the only construction is way down this important new light is one reconstructing knees and imaginative creative return which later americans go hard and it's important to note this because

mr soros yes at something the base so that moves out of the war that even more of those cities campaign trail used to work against jim crow school one thousand every other aspect of american life they have a lot of the work that they had an experience to go back to their constitution or even within what's happening now you could argue that the food that they're cheating on one the civil rights revolution to an incision much longer much harder because essentially what it was that sharon is that won't have to do over a long time will have not been the story of reconstruction and it's interesting to compare the

story it's a messy business so africans strong free review of overthrow and we're trying to help was in so that they didn't have a constitution to you to do it again yeah yeah one place of all in their own way what it is a symbolic role that that's going to make you voted to move

the trial was a joke what is this why is only thrive in mississippi president grant is faced with a litmus test about one year's worth of reconstruction one and the left of the republican movement for some unfortunate results if you live in florida unfortunately joint audition for the challenge you are going to use so now these voters necessary to protect election in mississippi because of this policy is broke radicals

who uses king genesis of the ladies and if i was one of the final tests on federal northern willing to sustain the republican party or illegitimate regime what the regime and so the state against white democratic party and in essence granted told john lynch and has therefore telling mississippi the mississippi problem was already lost gross ms mortenson yes another northern strongholds are anticipating the age of seventy six election than was insisting so in mississippi state of the world

the essential liberties and rights of reagan's now regret that mountain were at the mercy all white mississippians and the right to close just a thirty eight is there a method to compromise which is in the middle of the water what do you think does this deal of things and that they are saying that what was being decided while the

deal is being negotiated an online hotel in washington that became the comedy villages and so the first year and the actual compounds now most people are not and this was a close to small film do you there are dueling presidents in dealing these days they also revealing finally fell concern for all involved in reconstruction process that they fully understand that this is not at all the end of

reconstruction perhaps not they're also the lives of others and they were present with the human of our element of all major part of accommodating says at seventy seven creation so the tournaments major trade routes in the south southeast of a religious lesson that all of the us infrastructure of realtors what it was really all soldiers getting back control movement's political institutions huge lulu to deal with the president and we know some of the best we can determine someone part of the

president election va the prospect of having a democrat in the white house that some conjured up images of slain with with this week had to flee and was that as dave i know so we're dealing with all this there were

taking control of state legislatures and saw kind of cell i wish he's asleep and it's funny resilience was an establishment of mount a long process secure beginning of a long process recession reconciliation of the remote mountains known as cleo red and slashes of reconstruction that that national reconciliation and all of attention to the four inch that's

a black chorus of london because like it or not and there's a lot of talk about this question of national partisan weapon in a black stitches west cubans that has some kind of force some kind of protection especially in certain regions so that normal well a lot of what people like bernstein it's a scenario of memory and in some ways said they choose to and the sexiest as to me as a as someone coming from that path of war

is so sooner origins they've also commemorates the memorial was sick or foreign savers in the uk early on this is war dead at a confederate memorial day is found and some officials insist that it tends to be women's more moral associations visiting graveyards surprises about you it's still there in the most gracious old south and now to our salaries of the indian tune commemorate the confederates road to ruin my respect for the silent movies is such a colossal humiliation well

it's a very interesting example in seventy five were in construction for legions of richmond region and ceo unveiling of the first major confederate minute there are monuments of various kinds of places and senators right or also novelists or piles of snow and so the first great sculpture moralizing rich and forty seven final session the statue that was created by a british doctor was paid for in great part by the british system this is an original first come out and they operate nearly fifty thousand people through the city which

ended up on the capitol grounds in motion unveiling of his statue it's a fascinating event because the main reasons why oil regions or affluent participate but only at the very end and the world will what was shoots close in michigan to allow the participants massive investment only so they arrive a lot it really exercise in england ji who was sol fashion leader in the movement of the organization you know what one and then some are

largely invisible capacity because cantor as the redeemer governor of virginia was very careful to try not to a new orleans anymore unless they were waiting in lines and build floats until all sorts of symbolic on all of them background some tapestries on street corners in the city using the coming out of the current confederate prime within a decade of war and cameras concerned the way this will play more than history is an in camera really is terrible fight when justice of michigan voted to extend the capital and not come and pull it off but you can't get them again when they lose speeches basically began to forge a confederate lost cause as not a story about

loss the story of a victory and victory america was being told no speeches to la for decades to follow was very true reconstruction mind was in the war source who will control you write about that at home they were they were looking for this funky you know that the cast looking for the present was unsettling so they were kind of that it was many things it was

for years racial future origination o what mission oration or in the rest of the world but for for americans the outside lives with her in law school ideology in law school his organs things modern and board against organization technology on the border against the way the world was becoming a late nineteenth century those critical information on opposition voters

in confession a very popular form fiction on the donations of these resources so just sort of wow you also was a deal with one plantation says and we're obliged to essentially loyal retainers unhappy that their real characters and also they were very low and the fact they were almost all of the layers of pages storms that the reconciliation of the civil war and reconciliation much of the billions of reconstruction in the popular imagination happened as thousands upon thousands hundreds of thousands most of the voice

in croatia fortune is mrs wall the nation's new wells loss was once invasions higher arkansas there's a sense of the problem of the nation where everybody knew who they were where they should be and actually living by the nineties but in urbanized country and modernizing country a complicated place now for your ideology when socialism and standing uncommon for technology that grass green and when a woman gets confusing and changes where they did what most of us they are imaginative

oh yeah with this issue so it's also this idea suddenly the north is

fascinated by the church but also by citing these things an instant world via destroyed athens and seventeen sessions or just sort of english landscape in the south now he was polanski plantations were roses in fact in vietnam war and the major nations division nasa correspondence traveling south roads sewers supposed to talk with voters about the conditions of so and so what about the old trench lines what the old plantation appeared to be

america for the first time was a society with the experience of all or they had given them new name sounds more exotic it made so now a new place with no place for the past this is ask me another transportation is a number of them are advertising and seventies a company advertised widely visitations to the natural sounds awesome to its historic places it's a story that was original student today most often one to one your class conscious when

tourists travelers tourism of the south sudanese business that essentially about it also in sochi region and some of the old south carolina is about visiting the grid swaps all or other great plantations mississippi valley giant green combine released in south carolina they are also of course this morning on culture of national reconciliation and we change and we can address both of these things where you know there's this this version of

reconstruction in a war that takes hold for generations it also has in rio the national review in northern south in which the reconstruction arm and tremendous cost an arm as the sessions right answer simple raises the ends of the law and over the pudding is that evolving so that is also why cities what you had in the late nineteenth century is invalid two tons of narratives of the civil war and the narrative of the war the austro who's

this is the nation owes a narrative a story a tremendous story that's of course for the consultations and says promote or promote gun politics of reconciliation into the bitterness of war the second narrative is still out that his marriage and this is a narrative or happily construction is cisneros says that says the war was caused by slavery and its greatest results vroom of the slaves and challenge to re imagine their poll that and mrs group called neo evolution mr soros no

china buying television will only imagine imagine south about to turn the twentieth century these two minutes really get massive commemoration what do you do it at night expecting major cities competing to host an undocumented demonstrations sometimes first imitation date and eventually turn of the century especially the fiftieth anniversary season supporting this asian

nation exhibitions or black unions engage in some large scale exhibition meanwhile in the real world slowed these events blanks over themselves to try to celebrate the nonsense and mature promise education problems of the christian churches and so forth but they were also basically continue to try to forge a story no no and of the meaning of the civil war and reconstruction that could compete with this larger more dominant national merit are reconciled people aren't so wall they're essentially solved and it's the idea of reconciliation of the north and south are

very crude nineteen thirteen and that's going to be one of the questions that you do talk about the country leading to heel toe that is a major knee out with their hands and what what they sacrificed in their money and you have the same words reconstruction says hoel american cities her family was here in hillsborough on the other hand there was a need and demand responsibility just saying just that might be justice for white southerners who have suffered in the wake of tow

games especially the problem of justice is pretty well in the freedom rides between dimensions in black three and probably would have written such an of the long term debt load them into supporting these two great challenges and he just is never below in the kind of historical event now that they didn't you could say is just somehow know or you get behind this just listens to do and there is to race and racism the aftermath of two centuries of slavery and were such syria to the american imagination which he couldn't heal the nation at the same time and mack racial justice

in law and preserve and protect the guardian's grayson weighs on the civil war and reconstruction the world war brought this challenge of human genus was unveiled in the nineteenth century to present and that we have to return to work good gina proia chosen routine well i'm somebody tells agreeing on race in problem and says no law would windows

looting and use it and any kind of finish it up written for images footage in well the rose and was elected president in a story on the violence in nineteen twelve and thirteen first some fifty years ago who was also a virgin olive oil train horses is sort of recovery his life while civil war to an end of president johnson's in grade education and one of our future intellectuals who have france's president says

but wilson brings to the white house in nineteen thirty what kind of new spirit of racial segregation it points to a certain key votes terms of foreign relations there were time and so there's a kind of reform the ravages of jim crow so separating the racism were placed in separate and racism and education as a kind of useful almost progressive reform will say no environment that was actually part of his progressive says it was a progressive insurance since what it means is that after all of the

most well written to find meaning in your work to fifteen rooms first so the president says the unknown and me and liberation racial separation and in major cities and i do curtain into post offices in washington dc and courting are blacks and whites in washington's the treasury was down to below the levels of african americans that still the recent federal service in federal loans they might find some semblance of call

it is why were they danced though his favorites a comforting moving images and then what was missing well in nineteen thirty eight days the federal government in conjunction with the states particularly dazzling engine horses and sure and lilian the reason that one have become international partners about a world war sure sure our early on after the war the mongolian regimes when you're trying to find the footsteps

of past placements and the fiftieth anniversary of that rally gathered approximately fifty three thousand wore loose alliances and he wanted to bring an awareness and a veteran who could come as transportation a while ago when joshua states raise about two hundred million dollars to tin tin put on this event was closed that the scanners saying the two violent there were those who came from california or those known sets and they gathered in a gigantic tents in particular world war pro growth issues sullivan the nation promised the health reform is a new and celebration of national reconciliation grow all sorts of photogenic you

know mentally ill men and wrote you know shaking hands were shaking intensity listen to this in advance no eyewitness that could shorten the average age of seventy four ward of arms so that the fat guy as those four times less of a jew so inefficiency of truth and food service not of a religion growing ms sebert it with the sunni bloc the government handed over right he was a white soldiers remain and from the very inception of the plan and the government and

it was projected to be the celebration is called consequence those politics nevada with the rig owners say he was still sort of as illinois not his main bridge in humans it was useless reset in his words we are not here to discuss the genesis of the war we're here to discuss the great fund of course this was and for more than fifty years and so but the second a larger question question cause as you know work with other about the nature of reconstruction or the

aftermath of the american condition that the national memory at beach memoirs of the war the woodrow wilson was invited to come to defiance of water july nineteen thirty i initially local police for seven years has been nominated for seven elected president since warren when it walk into his office for five days before the billions mr president the fact you don't care that you've got your cover of an international president fifty three thousand jobs and sometime in the next four days wilson wrote his own ridiculous there was a lot of time trying to win back in convertible they wrote about those two tens of a fifteen thousand of the leeches

wilson was the virgin pennsylvania one he did is turned to an address in which he declared his support these words of course in america he did so the vow of women get a lot of those who support for them the transition you look to vacation that would follow was the sort of five minutes of song silence the plane kept those also the tension in melissa will but the fact that the united states could hold such a green

and matthew allow a discussion with warren new novel tells us violent about the cost of national reconciliation for american race relations and definition of american society this is the peak of the jim crow new jim crow laws are trying to cross this album about nineteen ten black servicemen stationed so rachel the only black people in gettysburg were black men are hired to build latrines to work in kitchens their loved ones fb